At that time, hardcore was totally dead, you know, speed metal was the next big thing. And I hated that shit. And the only thing to do was either be real quirky and new wave like we were at the beginning. The reason I liked Scratch Acid so much was because they had, like, structure to their songs, real simple pop structure that you could follow real easily, and it was almost like an Aerosmith song, but it was really fucked up. And that's what I was doing. That's what I wanted to do.